The CBC exists entirely on money extracted from worker’s wages in Canada.  That means  all working Christians also pay for CBC staff and buildings and programming.

 From the Internet:

  • On the 2001 census 72% of Canadians self-identified as Christian;
  • About 12% of Canadians or approximately 4 million people are evangelical;
  • There are approximately 24,000 churches, or congregations, in Canada, about 11,000 of which are evangelical.

You will notice that CBC claims to moderate comments, so I wonder why it is necessary to post so much vitriol against Christians in the thread following their article.

I know one of the commenters below, quite well.  He is an atheist with an obsessive hatred towards Christians, to the point where he says all of us should have our children taken away from us.  (Sometimes Christians do face severe persecution so maybe this fellow will see his dreams come true.) But CBC, why do you publish this hatred?

While this man rages at Christians, he lives in a large, expensive home in Abbotsford.  I don’t believe this man has any homeless sharing his spacious digs with him.  And quite frankly, while not knowing the other commenters, I doubt that many of them put their money where their mouth is.

Since 1970 I have attended church, but continued to have lots of fellow-workers and friends who are not Christians.  There are nice people in every group. But I am puzzled as to why it is uniquely the children of faith who are targeted and blamed for the growing problem of poverty, drug-addiction, mental illness and homelessness in Canada.

Christians, that is people who know and love the Lord, are far more likely to care about others and do something tangible to help people.  But if they take the Bible seriously they won’t blow their trumpet before them as they give alms to the poor.  Altruism is rare, but genuine love for God can, and should, translate into genuine love for others.  Jesus says not to let your left hand know what your right hand is doing when you help people less fortunate than yourself.

The media loves to focus on Abbotsford, usually referring to us as, the ‘Bible Belt’.   Social services, addictions, mental illness, homelessness,…….these are ALL matters that belong to senior levels of government, and should be resolved by them.   Local governments don’t have the money, or the taxing powers to deal with these very big social problems.  And any decisions made locally may be overridden by the courts.

Anything that dulls our minds is defeatist.  Drug use destroys vibrant lives and is the major reason people can no longer hold down a job, or steady relationships.  In time the spiral can leave lives once so full of potential, homeless, hungry and sick.

So what has the government response been?  Well!  Just give addicts clean needles and nice places to shoot up.  Make entry-level marijuana legal, easier to access,  so that even more young lives get hooked and ultimately washed into the waste-land of addicted humanity.  The horrid mess of the Downtown East Side is not shrinking despite free needles and the Portland Hotel Society.

So many sharp people with so much potential defeated by these asinine policies.

As for Abbotsford, we are surrounded by prisons.  The families and friends of inmates tend to settle near their loved ones which accounts for quite a few people who rely on social assistance.  We have a lot of resources to help the needy in terms of food and clothing as well. We have a big hospital. The weather most of the year is pretty nice,…… but no one should have to sleep outside, ever, in the rain and wind and cold.

However judges have ruled that our parks can become home to those who so choose, and the media has made our city a focal point of the discussion, to the extent that people are encouraged to head for Abbotsford because all it offers is so well publicized.

A fellow who works with street people told me Abbotsford is a magnet for the swelling numbers of homeless coming from other parts of the province and the rest of Canada.  But, All of the temperate parts of BC have people camping on public and private land.

There is a real and serious problem.  Government takes almost 50% of our wages via direct and indirect taxes.  Government can do all kinds of costly projects whenever it wants to.  There are no lack of empty buildings that could be utilized.  There is no lack of money either, but way too much goes into the disproportionate wages, benefits, and expense accounts of government employees.

The solution would require will and integrity on the part of elected officials. Prime Minister Trudeau can provide food, shelter and resources to 25,000 refugees, but Canadians live in abject filth and squalor, in constant danger, outside.  Go ahead and help the rest of the world, as we are able to, but don’t forsake your own people.

Immediate food and shelter can be provided.  There have to also be programs in place to give people the skills they need to help them to rise above their circumstances.

CBC staff, use your influence, and our hard-earned money for the good of your fellow man, and quit posting anonymous jabber about homelessness being the fault and responsibility of church-going Christians.  Nor should you be approving gratuitous, brainless insults about our mayor.  The public broadcaster should represent all Canadians, and do so with the design of uniting and elevating our nation.  –  Gerda Peachey

 

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/abbotsford-homeless-camp-eviction-1.3431289

Abbotsford posts eviction notices at homeless camp

City says Gladys Avenue campers will have to move to a city park

CBC News Posted: Feb 02, 2016 7:55 PM PT Last Updated: Feb 02, 2016 7:55 PM PT

 

A homeless camp in Abbotsford, B.C., has been set up for two years. (CBC)

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People living in a homeless camp along Gladys Avenue in Abbotsford, B.C., woke up this morning to find eviction notices posted on their tents.

The Gladys Avenue camp has been a semi-permanent home for the homeless for more than two years. That changed Tuesday morning when bylaw officers put up notices letting people know they have seven days to pack up and go.

“We are going to do this very respectfully,” said Abbotsford Mayor Henry Braun.

“We’re not going to go in there, marching in there and tearing people’s tents apart when we’re moving them.”

 

Abbotsford Mayor Henry Braun says the city is trying to evict residents at the homeless camp respectfully. (CBC)

The city made it legal this week for people to camp in public parks, bringing its bylaws in line with a recent court ruling. But the Gladys Avenue camp is on a road, not a park, so, according to the city, the campers can’t stay there.

Still, Braun says he knows asking the campers to leave and actually getting them to leave are two very different things.

“Some of them have told me personally, ‘We’re not moving,’ he said. “I told them, I get that but you cannot stay here. You have to go somewhere else in a park.”

Lack of shelter space

Then there is the issue of where the campers are supposed to go — Abbotsford’s shelters are almost at capacity.

The city said plans are in the works to create more shelter space. In addition, construction of a 50-bed mental health facility is supposed to be finished sometime this summer.

Still, homeless advocates say more resources are needed for people who are sleeping rough.

 

Eviction notices were pinned to tents in the Gladys Avenue homeless camp in Abbotsford, B.C. (CBC)

“What’s this solving other than cleaning up a mess in our community? I don’t think this is really addressing anything, because there is really nowhere else to go,” said Ward Draper, a pastor with 5 and 2 Ministries.

Draper said he believes the homeless campers on Gladys Avenue will just take their belongings and set up another camp somewhere else. He calls it the “Abbotsford shuffle.”

“We’re just going to see people being chased around in circles again at the expense of our community, our tax dollars and the health of these people who are already living in dire situations,” he said.

It’s unclear where the campers will go next, but the city said bylaw officers will be there next week to see to it that they move along. The site they’ve called home for two years will be empty.

With files from Jesse Johnston

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 [IMG_0852IMG_0846IMG_0844IMG_0856 (1)IMG_0841The RED highlights are mine, and the pictures are just a few of the many places that look like this in Abbotsford.   Gerda]
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globecare
  • globecare

It is cheaper to house them, give them food and medical treatment, support them emotionally and mentally, clothe them and essentially care for them than playing nasty politics. If this area is truly Christian and caring there should be few if any homeless.

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jondamnvan the first
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@globecare

Remove them with a Christian Crusade maybe ? A Christian Inquisition ? A Christian Exorcism ? A Christian Excommunication ?

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@globecare Abbotsford is not a Christian Area It’s the Devils playground. It has one of the highest crime and drug rates going. Yes there is lots of churches and people saying they are Christians But they are only “Christians between 10 to 12 on Sunday Mornings” Just go onto facebooks abbotsford bidding wars and you can see one of the food banks is selling all the food that comes in and people are buying it up like crazy.A true christian would not be buying up donated food or selling it! Trust… » more

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Bill Barilko
  • Bill Barilko

No Chicken manure this time?

Or is that tactic being saved for later in the game?

http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/2013/06/05/City-of-Abbotsford-admits-dumping-chicken-manure-homeless/

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monkeyshine
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“bylaw officers will be there next week to see to it that they move along”. Go camp on the Mayors front lawn. He will be too busy going to church to notice. Stabbotsdorf is seriously lacking in the compassion and creative thinking department. Pathetic.

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Patrick
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@Just Some Guy

History repeats itself and Karma is a constant so God forbid that you would ever consider saying that to your children.

Is that your solution? To discard people ?

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Patrick
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@rex heeler

You do knoe that life has it’s ups and diwn, don’t you ?

What, pray tell, would you do, uf you found yourself in a helpless, homeless position, where the only offer to you was a communities hate. 

Come on now, try to retain your self respect, you’re embarrassing real people.

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David Wolf
  • David Wolf

These homeless should wait for Ottawa to help refugees first.

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GaryMyers
  • GaryMyers

Seriously? Do we want these people camped out in city parks? They, and we, are far better off where they are. Driving them out is a really bad decision as far as I can see.

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@GaryMyers Where they are right now has made a large amount of people who live in the area very uncomfortable. I live up the hill from them and they are costing a large amount of money in our building do they damage they continuously do to our garbage bins when they break into them. Numerous times I have come home to individuals passed out in the middle of our driveway from intoxication. I can’t take my garbage out at night due to feeling so unsafe, are parking garage has individuals on camera… » more

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Chris Van Ihinger
  • Chris Van Ihinger

Lots of crown lands around with no restrictions on camping. Free too.

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Chris Van Ihinger
  • Chris Van Ihinger

Commenter pat_wobbly points us to an interesting website that clarifies the most common conditions that apply to camping on crown land. Unfortunately the website is hard to open. Once opened, it shows a sign posted by the BC Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations.

For the benefit of those who are experiencing difficulty opening the URL and/or are otherwise unfamiliar with the restrictions, here is a transcription of the sign:
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@geologist

I am certain that you embarrass your entire family.

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Microhousing Victoria
  • Microhousing Victoria

We need more affordable housing options–microhousing, and especially a multi-unit model is one option worthy of exploration. www.microhousingvictoria.com

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Kristina
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@Microhousing Victoria That is a much better idea than tents!

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BobsOpinion
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Canada needs to re-gain it’s caring for the needy . . . or become a third -world nation with shanty towns across the country. Canada is better than this.

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being Right
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The ‘homeless’ problem is not because there are not enough homes in BC but an unwillingness to send them there or the fact that these people are unfit for shelter.

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Just Some Guy
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@being Right
What a breath of fresh air. To finally see someone post something that actually makes sense.

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Patrick
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@being Right

How anyone can actually say that about another Human Being, let alone think such evil, is far beyond all decency and void of any self respect.

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There is absolutely nothing respectful about Mayor Henry Braun, regarding his unimaginable contempt for the homeless under his careless direction, instead of offering viable, helpful solutions. 

His conduct portrays him as imoral, unethical, punitive, zero empathy, lacking understanding, among a tsunami of negativity, that shamelessly injures a group of desperate people whom need a voice, a helping hand, understanding, support and love in their desperate time of need,  

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debris54
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people need to live somewhere … of course they do ! … something must be down with this situation ..

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Just Some Guy
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@GaryMyers
Didn’t you read the story Gary? They are out and living on a patch of land on edge of the road. It’s disgusting to say the least. Take a drive by and see for yourself.

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myster_e
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Tent cities are an option. It will be cheaper to pay for services than to continually pay for enforcement.

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Just Some Guy
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@Bill Barilko
I live in Abbotsford and using manure wouldn’t bother me. It would be cleaner than the mess these ” homeless ” people are creating. If they would at least take some pride in where they are squatting I might have a bit of sympathy for them

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Patrick
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@Just Some Guy

Oh, that’s really helpful.

How old are you?…

…12 ?

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Able_walker
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These people contribute negative nothing…..

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Lori
  • Lori

unfortunately the bc government continues to make it crystal clear that they are not interested in the compassionate care of this province’s most vulnerable citizens – homeless adults and homeless children & youth….if they wanted to provide anything, they would. cause from where i stand, when they want to do something, they do it.

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geologist
  • geologist

They should just claim to be Syrians and Justin will fall all over himself showering them with taxpayer dollars and selfies.

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Um...
  • Um…

Shameful to treat people like unwanted children…. They don’t belong in camps and shelters….. But I’m not sure where they should go… They just don’t belong… Except with each other left alone? In peace.

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1Salal
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@Um…

Unfortunately there is always a percentage of the homeless population that do drugs and steal from area homes to obtain the money to purchase those drugs. Many homeowners living in close proximity to the tent city next to Victoria’s courthouse have related many stories of break ins and thefts from their yards.

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@Um…

It’s up to us to encourage others to stand with us on their own two feet and to embrace a better future that everyone deserves.

Everybody belongs.

The following is not for you, as you at least have empathy and consideration and are trying to offer solutions….but for those meanspirited comments coming from the dark side in the valley…..they’re dar from being normal. 

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Yoda
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They won’t go peacefully of course. It will be a media circus and a good opportunity for the talking heads to rant and rave. As usual.

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